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	<description>Defending science and fighting scams in our local community.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Lethbridge Chiropractic &#8211; Accountability by robsutherland</title>
		<link>http://www.lethbridgefreethinkers.ca/blog/2009/12/lethbridge-chiropractic-accountability/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>robsutherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live near a chiropractic clinic and I recently glanced at the list of illnesses that they claim to treat. Just looking at the &quot;A&#039;s&quot; they are telling people that they can treat ADHD, allergies, and asthma. There is no evidence that I can find in quite extensive searches of the research literature to support these health claims. In addition, this corporation consistently advises people against seeking out treatments that are based upon evidence-based medicine.

These people do harm in at least 5 ways: they profit from bogus therapies; they shrink the pot of money available for health care; they harm people directly by their sometimes dangerous procedures; they promote magical, pseudoscience thinking; they scare sick people away from effective therapies.

In terms of action at some point letters/pressure on government can be effective. My belief however is that they rely on counting letters, as opposed reading them and evaluating the quality of the arguments and evidence contained.

It is difficult to know the best way for this harm to be addressed. 
My guess is that we should probably try to generate some public interest and outrage about what is being foisted on them by chiropractic corporations. Only then might there be some significant number of people opposed to them.

We might try to organize some effort locally among those who are dissatified with chiropractic services perhaps acting with the Federal Health Fraud agency http://www.bureaudelaconcurrence.gc.ca/eic/site/cb-bc.nsf/eng/h_00020.html.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live near a chiropractic clinic and I recently glanced at the list of illnesses that they claim to treat. Just looking at the &#8220;A&#8217;s&#8221; they are telling people that they can treat ADHD, allergies, and asthma. There is no evidence that I can find in quite extensive searches of the research literature to support these health claims. In addition, this corporation consistently advises people against seeking out treatments that are based upon evidence-based medicine.</p>
<p>These people do harm in at least 5 ways: they profit from bogus therapies; they shrink the pot of money available for health care; they harm people directly by their sometimes dangerous procedures; they promote magical, pseudoscience thinking; they scare sick people away from effective therapies.</p>
<p>In terms of action at some point letters/pressure on government can be effective. My belief however is that they rely on counting letters, as opposed reading them and evaluating the quality of the arguments and evidence contained.</p>
<p>It is difficult to know the best way for this harm to be addressed.<br />
My guess is that we should probably try to generate some public interest and outrage about what is being foisted on them by chiropractic corporations. Only then might there be some significant number of people opposed to them.</p>
<p>We might try to organize some effort locally among those who are dissatified with chiropractic services perhaps acting with the Federal Health Fraud agency <a href="http://www.bureaudelaconcurrence.gc.ca/eic/site/cb-bc.nsf/eng/h_00020.html." rel="nofollow">http://www.bureaudelaconcurrence.gc.ca/eic/site/cb-bc.nsf/eng/h_00020.html.</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Golden Rice&#8221; and how science is loosing the battle by James</title>
		<link>http://www.lethbridgefreethinkers.ca/blog/2009/11/golden-rice-and-how-science-is-loosing-the-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add a side widget for meet ups.</description>
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		<title>Comment on New look &amp; concept for Lethbridge Freethinkers by robsutherland</title>
		<link>http://www.lethbridgefreethinkers.ca/blog/2009/11/hello-world/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>robsutherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new look and design are excellent. I look forward to some interesting and useful local issues in the Activism section.

- Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new look and design are excellent. I look forward to some interesting and useful local issues in the Activism section.</p>
<p>- Rob</p>
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		<title>Comment on New look &amp; concept for Lethbridge Freethinkers by feralfox</title>
		<link>http://www.lethbridgefreethinkers.ca/blog/2009/11/hello-world/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>feralfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice new look.  Just wondering though, will the new site have a place where we can organize meetups?

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice new look.  Just wondering though, will the new site have a place where we can organize meetups?</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Golden Rice&#8221; and how science is loosing the battle by robertpeters</title>
		<link>http://www.lethbridgefreethinkers.ca/blog/2009/11/golden-rice-and-how-science-is-loosing-the-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>robertpeters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James,

I realize this isn&#039;t the proper space, but I didn&#039;t see any other way to contact the site.  So, the old forum is dead?  I was hoping to advertise the second monthly meet-up at the Blarney Stone.  We had such a lovely time in November and I want to ensure we keep it rolling.

Our second meeting will be on the second Sunday of the month (December) at 4pm at the Blarney Stone in Calgary!  Hope to see everyone there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James,</p>
<p>I realize this isn&#8217;t the proper space, but I didn&#8217;t see any other way to contact the site.  So, the old forum is dead?  I was hoping to advertise the second monthly meet-up at the Blarney Stone.  We had such a lovely time in November and I want to ensure we keep it rolling.</p>
<p>Our second meeting will be on the second Sunday of the month (December) at 4pm at the Blarney Stone in Calgary!  Hope to see everyone there!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New look &amp; concept for Lethbridge Freethinkers by James</title>
		<link>http://www.lethbridgefreethinkers.ca/blog/2009/11/hello-world/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes they also offer a great money making career in hypnotherapy. I have the advertisement that I will scan and upload, it is very entertaining. 

I got an email from the president of the Lethbridge College last year about  the sponsorship of the Alternative Health Care trade show put on at the College. Her response was disappointing at best:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thank you for your feedback. . . we are always interested in hearing from our community and particularly from our alums.
 
Our job in post-secondary is to promote critical thinking. . . clearly something you very much support as indicated by your affiliation with Freethinkers.
 
We hope that our students will be able to distinguish between what is science and what is not. . . as I&#039;m sure you know, there are many alternative medicine options that warrant further exploration and investigation.  We want our students to see what&#039;s out there and be able to formulate measured opinions.  They need to decide for themselves what is fallacy and what is not.
 
I hope this helps. . .
 
Cheers!
 
T.
 
Dr. Tracy Edwards
President and CEO
Lethbridge College&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I responded with asking her about sponsoring a Intelligent Design trade show or a moon landing conspiracy lecture so student could decide for themselves on those issues also however I did no receive a response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes they also offer a great money making career in hypnotherapy. I have the advertisement that I will scan and upload, it is very entertaining. </p>
<p>I got an email from the president of the Lethbridge College last year about  the sponsorship of the Alternative Health Care trade show put on at the College. Her response was disappointing at best:</p>
<blockquote><p>Thank you for your feedback. . . we are always interested in hearing from our community and particularly from our alums.</p>
<p>Our job in post-secondary is to promote critical thinking. . . clearly something you very much support as indicated by your affiliation with Freethinkers.</p>
<p>We hope that our students will be able to distinguish between what is science and what is not. . . as I&#8217;m sure you know, there are many alternative medicine options that warrant further exploration and investigation.  We want our students to see what&#8217;s out there and be able to formulate measured opinions.  They need to decide for themselves what is fallacy and what is not.</p>
<p>I hope this helps. . .</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>T.</p>
<p>Dr. Tracy Edwards<br />
President and CEO<br />
Lethbridge College</p></blockquote>
<p>I responded with asking her about sponsoring a Intelligent Design trade show or a moon landing conspiracy lecture so student could decide for themselves on those issues also however I did no receive a response.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New look &amp; concept for Lethbridge Freethinkers by dketcheson</title>
		<link>http://www.lethbridgefreethinkers.ca/blog/2009/11/hello-world/comment-page-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>dketcheson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was anybody aware of the Lethbridge College offering courses in so-called &quot;complementary&quot; therapies?  Psychic, touch-therapy, Reiki etc.

Check the &quot;Mind.Body.Home&quot; page at the College site.  

Perhaps a few letters of concern to the College may be in order.

Love the the new look - thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was anybody aware of the Lethbridge College offering courses in so-called &#8220;complementary&#8221; therapies?  Psychic, touch-therapy, Reiki etc.</p>
<p>Check the &#8220;Mind.Body.Home&#8221; page at the College site.  </p>
<p>Perhaps a few letters of concern to the College may be in order.</p>
<p>Love the the new look &#8211; thanks</p>
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